Monday, March 19, 2012

*REVISED!* Choosing a Kid Carrier (Deuter vs. Kelty)

**Please note: After posting this review, a representative from Kelty kindly stepped in and informed us of a feature of the pack that we had somehow missed....(amazing how that can happen!)  I have revised this post, but did not revise the video (because it is hard to get a house quiet enough to do that with two young kids!)  But, we now know that you can compress the Kelty more by releasing those yellow straps that lie against the back panel. This allows the area where the child sits to fold down. They MUST be tightened prior to use to make the design work, but if you needed it as "thin" as possible you would want to loosen those straps as well.**

We have gotten fairly swamped with people wanting a fair comparison between the Kelty Pathfinder 3.0 and the Deuter Kid Carrier III (both packs that we have reviewed previously - links lead to those reviews on this blog.)  I am honestly not too keen on comparing the packs because there is certainly a HUGE amount of personal preference, but I also believe in doing real, honest reviews here and so will happily give our opinion!  While I personally believe these are two of the very best on the market right now, Osprey's Poco is starting to hit stores now, and who knows where that one will stand in the line-up!  It seems pretty great, but I haven't tested it myself.  I will certainly update this when we do!
Comparing how far they open up.
Comparing widths when compact (this is a revised photo - see note at top of post)
Let me start with saying that both carriers are excellent.  In our family they have both served their purpose and we reach for them for different things and usually for different kids.  This is absolutely our personal preference and opinions and the best way for you to make a decision about a carrier is to go into a store and try one on.


If you prefer to watch the comparison (easier to see some of the features...though note that this video is nothing professional! ;))




What they both do well:
- Ample amount of storage space (1220 Cubic Inches in the Deuter; 1300 Cubic Inches in the Kelty)
- Same weight (7 lb. 10 oz.)
- Area for a hydration bladder
- Plenty of exterior pockets
- Both have sleeping "pillows" for the kids to rest on.
- They retail for a similar price point (Kelty $279; Deuter $299)
- Fold up compact (they are about the same width if you don't take the removable daypack on the Kelty into consideration - see photo above)
Deuter Kid Carrier III Hydration
Kelty Pathfinder 3.0
Advantages of the Deuter Kid Comfort III (this is the pack J usually rides in):
- Higher back which provides more support and protection for the child.
- Side entry which makes loading easier for bigger kids
- Compresses thinner so despite the length, packs easier; opens up larger to allow for larger kids or more gear (or just easier adjustment.)  *The Kelty has a moveable daypack that keeps its width just a little wider*
- Sun shade is a part of the pack and stows away in its own pocket (the Kelty also has a sun shade, but it is much more complicated to set up.)
- Vari-Flex Hip Wings are AWESOME for carrying a heavier child especially.  They really do move with your movement and allow the rest of the pack to stay mostly still.
- Seems to accomodate a larger child (J at almost 3 fits in it with his snow gear on still).  However, on the other hand, it isn't so great for small or very young children because they can't see over it as well.
- We find this pack in general is more comfortable for us when carrying a heavy load (40+ pounds.)

Advantages of the Kelty Pathfinder 3.0 (this is the pack P usually rides in):
- Removable Daypack
- "Roll cage" to protect kids during a fall *This is our very favorite feature of this pack - I truly feel like the child is more protected. However, it also means that it has a limited amount of space to get a kid into because the width is fixed by the roll cage.*
- Excellent support in the shoulder straps (5-point harness).  When P was 4 months old (and had superb head control, he could easily sit in it.)  We couldn't put P in the Deuter at all until at least 7 months (but he is a small kid.)
- Easier and quicker to adjust the torso length on the pack (it adjusts with a pin in the waist belt; the Deuter adjusts by moving the shoulder straps.)
- Self-retracting kickstand (or "base") to help with adjustments (and yes, this base is very secure when loading a child.)
- The sternum strap is much easier to adjust (it is on a "track")
The packs they usually ride in
They still fit in the "other pack" but not as well...
If we could choose just one.....
I know this is the question that everyone has, but it really isn't easy at all to answer and is totally a matter of personal preference.  But, hopefully this will help.....

If you are doing activities where you are worried about falling and potentially crushing your child (like skiing)....choose the Kelty


If you want your child to be able to comfortably sit in the carrier at a young age......choose the Kelty.


If you foresee carrying your 3 year old (as long as they + gear are under 50 pounds) or have larger children in general.....choose the Deuter.


And if you just can't make a decision and it is making you crazy.....choose whichever one you can find on sale OR you can find locally! :)

Please feel free to leave comments of your own experiences and preferences - we truly want to hear them (and feel as though they are valuable to everyone else reading this post!)  

20 comments:

  1. We love our Kelty but I think it won over the Deuter because we were able to get one gently used :D That and the on the fly adjustment - my husband can take our son for the first 10 km, then I can take him for the second.

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    1. Used is always great (because they can last FOREVER!)

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  2. We also have both and I would have to choose the Kelty over Deuter because I am able to adjust it to fit my petite frame better. I agree that both are excellent, but Kelty has served us better. We purchased the Deuter pack for my older, special needs child specifically because it allowed more room for him, and overall the pack was more compact and that came in handy for our international travels. So in that regard, it has been great. I think your analysis is spot on!!

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    1. Thanks for confirming our analysis - nice to hear someone agrees!!! Curious how old your older son is and still fits in it??

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  3. Morgan from Kelty Pack here - just wanted to comment that you can compress the FC3 more by releasing those yellow straps that lie against the back panel. This allows the area where the child sits to fold down. They MUST be tightened prior to use to make the design work, but if you needed it as "thin" as possible you would want to loosen those straps as well. Thanks for testing!

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    1. Morgan! Thank you SOOO much for posting on here. I have NO idea how we missed that feature (except that we got the pack before it was released and so didn't have a manual, lame as that sounds!) I revised the original post here and took a few more pictures to compare. Awesome! (and I am totally humbled...;))

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  4. I've never tried the Deuter, but I have the older Kelty Backcountry And we love it, especially the rain / shield.

    Is that a new model Kelty? If so, it's nice to see that they've brought back the removeable daypack. When I asked a year ago, they said they weren't making them anymore.

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    1. Paul, yes it is a 2012 model (came out in January!) And I agree the Daypack is great!

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  5. We have a Kelty Summit that we love. Took it to New York for some site seeing (where A was either happily viewing or comfortably sleeping) but have also used it while doing yard work chores or hiking. It's very comfortable to wear and super easy to adjust. A always cried when it was time to get out. Recently purchased a gently used one for a family friend with a new baby.

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  6. Thanks so much for the honest reviews! It's so great to see the two side-by-side and see the actual differences between them. It's easier to envision the situations we could use each. My husband and I are still debating between the two carriers, but are pretty confident that whichever we pick will be a great carrier. Thanks again for taking the time to compare the carriers!!! We really appreciate it! :D

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  7. We put off buying a carrier until our oldest was 1 1/2, so she just did all her hiking in our Ergo (including a trip through the Grand Canyon!). She was light and didn't mind it, plus it was easier to swing her around to nurse. We could even walk at the same time. :)

    I suppose it's important that we don't do any snow sports, so we didn't need a roll cage. Since she was heavier by the time we moved up, I balked at the weight of the carriers. We ended up getting a Sherpani Rumba (which we've loved) because it's a few pounds lighter than the Kelty and Deuter, and we don't need much storage space. We also found ours on sale so that helped. ;)

    I found this review to be helpful: http://www.backpackinglight.com/cgi-bin/backpackinglight/2007_sherpani_rumba_superlight_child_carrier_review.html

    We'll have to start looking for a second for little sister, so maybe we'll try one of these for comparison's sake. Thanks for the helpful reviews! I appreciate hearing from someone who's used them!

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    1. Hi Lauren. Thanks for the info about the Sherpani - I have heard similar things about them. Unfortunately, Sherpani is no longer making kid carriers! But, I know there are a lot of used ones out there!

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  8. Thank you, I have so been trying to do without a pack, still using the Ergo and a K'Tan, but we really do need to purchase one already! Thank you for the comparison.

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    1. Well the Ergo (or similar packs) definitely do work for hiking, but there are definite advantages to the framed packs too!

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  9. We just got a Sherpani Rumba and we absolutely love it. It is a great frame pack if you are looking for a less expensive option that does not compromise quality. The only problem I see is that it does not contain a hydration pack. We have just gone on day hikes so far. We will be really testing it out in the summer when we pack in for a couple days. Thank you for the comparison Mountain Mama. These packs are so important for our little ones.
    -Amanda

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    1. Thanks for the insight! :) I know Sherpani is going to no longer make kid carriers, so you are one of the lucky ones! :) I have heard they are great as long as you don't need to carry any other gear!

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  10. So curious how the Osprey will fit into this.

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    1. I have a video post brewing comparing the Deuter, Kelty, Osprey and another Deuter....watch the blog for it! But, also remember I recommend trying them on yourself for the BEST idea of how they will fit you!

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    2. I am looking forward to it. We were trying to buy as a fathers day gift, any sneak preview to how the Osprey compares? I'm 5'10 and mu hubby 6'2 and comfort is paramount to us.

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